This natural beauty and talent... definitely pawned SNSD there
(newest ZLY pic... she doesn't need to act cute to be cute... She who "forbidden" to be cute due to her mature image, actually cuter than "them" who "must" act cute everytime and everywhere)
(She who didn't need to flirt around to get Siwon's hand in her shoulder.... Look at those flirty faces >.<)
Note: I just use ZLY as example since I know her performance well and she really had unfair moment (even not as ridiculous as what CSJH felt) in SM Town Bangkok. If I compared SNSD to DBSK, Suju or Shinee... we all know who is the winner
They are still not a part of SM family that loved by all SM artists fans...
I know we have so many discussion thread about SM Town Bangkok, but here I just want to summarize what I felt and what I saw through Ch7 channel videos, that made me realized that they are still not loved by majority of elf and cassie. Yup, even in Thailand, the place that I think... they have many fans there (from recent polling, they even has more votes than DBSK).
Here, I will give what I saw from Ch 7 videos:
1. SNSD indeed has many fans in Thailand but to owned big stage like in SM Concert, they still failed.
Because without supports from elfs and cassies.. even sones screamed out of their lunge... their screams won't sound as screaming especially in TV recording videos (since mostly they will reduce fans screaming). But if the screams were too loud, you will still can hear it even it was already edited.
Proof?
KISSING POO PERFORMANCE
Do you hear any scream? No... i don't hear it at all. Perhaps some delusional fans will say... "Oh perhaps because of the cheers are too loud so they have to full edited the screams from fans". Hmm... did you think so? I won't think the same thing because I STILL CAN HEAR CHEERS IN ZLY AND DBSK PERFORMANCE RIGHT AFTER THEIR PERFORMANCE. And if they think that screams for ZLY not needed to be edited because of ZLY has a few screams so she will look so pity if they edited it... then why don't the Ch7 edited DBSK performance's cheers. We all agree they will have a major screams.
Proof?
ZLY and DBSK performances... RIGHT AFTER SHITDAE PERFORMANCE
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and if I compare with their HIT PERFORMANCE... "Gee"... why I think that ZLY "who has no HIT song" (I have to admit that she is not that popular compare to SNSD) got more cheers that their "Gee"? Weird... No one got enthusiast in their dancing move.
Are they supposed to be "dance and sing" group if we compare with ZLY that supposed to be Ballad group? But why her dancing pawned their dancing? Hmm... I think majority of elfs and cassies were not in love with Gee as what I used to think... And as what delusional admit in the comment
Oh yeah... only in beginning... the rest of it? Where are those screaming? edited again? Poor SNSD... Ch 7 perhaps hate them. And in "Himnae" song... you won't hear that loud scream again... why? Because perhaps people there only know Gee. *ups*
Proof?
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2. Screw you SNSD fans who always critize Zhang Li Yin in her videos.
Even you are trying to be nice that saying bla bla and bla, but we know that those delusional fans only want to bring Li Yin down... but still these two videos are proof, that SM Town fans love her more than your plastics. Shitdae performance was before ZLY "I Will" performance and you can clearly feel the different vibe of supports from fans (that we know majorly are elfs and cassies)
Proof?
SNSD "Baby Baby" RIGHT BEFORE ZLY
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ZLY "I Will" AFTER SNSD
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I wonder whether the SM Town coordinator hates SNSD too though. They always placed her performance after SNSD, THAT WILL MAKE SNSD BAD QUALITY PERFORMANCE CAN CLEARLY BEING SEEN BY EVERYONE. In ZLY performance, you can see how fans screamed when she hit the highest note of the song and how fans sing along with her. This song even not that popular... >.<
3. Humiliation for Taeyeon "SNSD leader" that her performance was CUT from Ch 7 when they aired SM Town
As what I wrote here HERE, I think now it's confirmed that her solo performance "Can you hear me?" was not aired in SM Town Ch 7. Well... another point down for SNSD... your leader is an epic fail. Yeah... among all performances, they chose to cut her performance. How pity... I think this concert is a good step to promote "this wanna be solo singer" No? But since they cut her performance, so SM strategy was wrong. Her performance was not worth to be hear in national scale... Thanks to Ch 7 who save millions of people's hearing. Thank you so much, Ch 7.
CONCLUSION:
1. Even no matter how insane SM promotes SNSD, they still failed even in their out of country biggest fan base.
How can I read and heard in elfs and cassies accounts who attended the concert... they seldom mentioned SNSD? They spazzed about Suju and DBSK (we all understand) but mostly they still mentioned Shinee or ZLY that only performed 2 songs. Simple, because her performance were memorable for them.
2. I do think when ZLY pawned SNSD is an epic fail for SNSD.
Why? ZLY was absent from K Pop industry for more than 2 years. Her last promo in Korean song was aroud February 2007. And we all know SNSD like "dominated" girls section in SM from 2007 until now with crazy promotion from SM. But why there are still so many elfs and cassies who supported her more than Shitdae? Simple... because even if you try to hide a diamond (talent)... no matter how hard you hide it... It will still shine more than fake jewelry (talentless) that you wore everywhere. I can't imagine if CSJH WAS THERE... THOSE DIAMONDS WILL REALLY OVERSHADOWED THEM...
3. Quality mostly always over Quantity.
And this really happened in SM Town Bangkok 2009. With just two performances, ZLY grabbed fans attention when SNSD? Perhaps with their crappy performance... they will gain more anti. Not perhaps, I'm sure about it. It's already hard for talent vs talentless (in girls section) when CSJH was not around, but even with ZLY alone, she won a big time. With CSJH... I can't imagine though.
4. SM... open your eyes...
You promoted them so hard and this result for me still a fail. That "Gee" song phenomena is not enough. You wasted your moneyfeeding these 9 girls. I still doubt what you earn is more than what you gave to them.
5. I miss old SM Town when only high quality performances there.
Performance with a high sense of musicality. When they sang happily in SM Town 2007... I can't forget it. I can't wait for other SM Town especially in China because I doubt shitdae will dare to come.
Sorry for ranting too much here. I just need to bring this out of my lunge. (mod... please move this thread if this is not appropriate, thanks.)
(newest ZLY pic... she doesn't need to act cute to be cute... She who "forbidden" to be cute due to her mature image, actually cuter than "them" who "must" act cute everytime and everywhere)
(She who didn't need to flirt around to get Siwon's hand in her shoulder.... Look at those flirty faces >.<)
Note: I just use ZLY as example since I know her performance well and she really had unfair moment (even not as ridiculous as what CSJH felt) in SM Town Bangkok. If I compared SNSD to DBSK, Suju or Shinee... we all know who is the winner
They are still not a part of SM family that loved by all SM artists fans...
I know we have so many discussion thread about SM Town Bangkok, but here I just want to summarize what I felt and what I saw through Ch7 channel videos, that made me realized that they are still not loved by majority of elf and cassie. Yup, even in Thailand, the place that I think... they have many fans there (from recent polling, they even has more votes than DBSK).
Here, I will give what I saw from Ch 7 videos:
1. SNSD indeed has many fans in Thailand but to owned big stage like in SM Concert, they still failed.
Because without supports from elfs and cassies.. even sones screamed out of their lunge... their screams won't sound as screaming especially in TV recording videos (since mostly they will reduce fans screaming). But if the screams were too loud, you will still can hear it even it was already edited.
Proof?
KISSING POO PERFORMANCE
Do you hear any scream? No... i don't hear it at all. Perhaps some delusional fans will say... "Oh perhaps because of the cheers are too loud so they have to full edited the screams from fans". Hmm... did you think so? I won't think the same thing because I STILL CAN HEAR CHEERS IN ZLY AND DBSK PERFORMANCE RIGHT AFTER THEIR PERFORMANCE. And if they think that screams for ZLY not needed to be edited because of ZLY has a few screams so she will look so pity if they edited it... then why don't the Ch7 edited DBSK performance's cheers. We all agree they will have a major screams.
Proof?
ZLY and DBSK performances... RIGHT AFTER SHITDAE PERFORMANCE
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and if I compare with their HIT PERFORMANCE... "Gee"... why I think that ZLY "who has no HIT song" (I have to admit that she is not that popular compare to SNSD) got more cheers that their "Gee"? Weird... No one got enthusiast in their dancing move.
Are they supposed to be "dance and sing" group if we compare with ZLY that supposed to be Ballad group? But why her dancing pawned their dancing? Hmm... I think majority of elfs and cassies were not in love with Gee as what I used to think... And as what delusional admit in the comment
i can hear the cheers in the beginning :D
Oh yeah... only in beginning... the rest of it? Where are those screaming? edited again? Poor SNSD... Ch 7 perhaps hate them. And in "Himnae" song... you won't hear that loud scream again... why? Because perhaps people there only know Gee. *ups*
Proof?
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2. Screw you SNSD fans who always critize Zhang Li Yin in her videos.
Even you are trying to be nice that saying bla bla and bla, but we know that those delusional fans only want to bring Li Yin down... but still these two videos are proof, that SM Town fans love her more than your plastics. Shitdae performance was before ZLY "I Will" performance and you can clearly feel the different vibe of supports from fans (that we know majorly are elfs and cassies)
Proof?
SNSD "Baby Baby" RIGHT BEFORE ZLY
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ZLY "I Will" AFTER SNSD
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I wonder whether the SM Town coordinator hates SNSD too though. They always placed her performance after SNSD, THAT WILL MAKE SNSD BAD QUALITY PERFORMANCE CAN CLEARLY BEING SEEN BY EVERYONE. In ZLY performance, you can see how fans screamed when she hit the highest note of the song and how fans sing along with her. This song even not that popular... >.<
3. Humiliation for Taeyeon "SNSD leader" that her performance was CUT from Ch 7 when they aired SM Town
As what I wrote here HERE, I think now it's confirmed that her solo performance "Can you hear me?" was not aired in SM Town Ch 7. Well... another point down for SNSD... your leader is an epic fail. Yeah... among all performances, they chose to cut her performance. How pity... I think this concert is a good step to promote "this wanna be solo singer" No? But since they cut her performance, so SM strategy was wrong. Her performance was not worth to be hear in national scale... Thanks to Ch 7 who save millions of people's hearing. Thank you so much, Ch 7.
CONCLUSION:
1. Even no matter how insane SM promotes SNSD, they still failed even in their out of country biggest fan base.
How can I read and heard in elfs and cassies accounts who attended the concert... they seldom mentioned SNSD? They spazzed about Suju and DBSK (we all understand) but mostly they still mentioned Shinee or ZLY that only performed 2 songs. Simple, because her performance were memorable for them.
2. I do think when ZLY pawned SNSD is an epic fail for SNSD.
Why? ZLY was absent from K Pop industry for more than 2 years. Her last promo in Korean song was aroud February 2007. And we all know SNSD like "dominated" girls section in SM from 2007 until now with crazy promotion from SM. But why there are still so many elfs and cassies who supported her more than Shitdae? Simple... because even if you try to hide a diamond (talent)... no matter how hard you hide it... It will still shine more than fake jewelry (talentless) that you wore everywhere. I can't imagine if CSJH WAS THERE... THOSE DIAMONDS WILL REALLY OVERSHADOWED THEM...
3. Quality mostly always over Quantity.
And this really happened in SM Town Bangkok 2009. With just two performances, ZLY grabbed fans attention when SNSD? Perhaps with their crappy performance... they will gain more anti. Not perhaps, I'm sure about it. It's already hard for talent vs talentless (in girls section) when CSJH was not around, but even with ZLY alone, she won a big time. With CSJH... I can't imagine though.
4. SM... open your eyes...
You promoted them so hard and this result for me still a fail. That "Gee" song phenomena is not enough. You wasted your moneyfeeding these 9 girls. I still doubt what you earn is more than what you gave to them.
5. I miss old SM Town when only high quality performances there.
Performance with a high sense of musicality. When they sang happily in SM Town 2007... I can't forget it. I can't wait for other SM Town especially in China because I doubt shitdae will dare to come.
Sorry for ranting too much here. I just need to bring this out of my lunge. (mod... please move this thread if this is not appropriate, thanks.)
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